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MA Monday San Francisco and Other Cities

The next Marketing Automation Monday will be in San Francisco on March 21st. It is organized by Daniel Kuperman and hosted by Brighttalk (501 Folsom Street). It’s going to be the 3rd meetup in San Francisco, and we expect about two dozen Marketing Automation users, who will discuss integration with CRM and several other topics.

Register for Marketing Automation Monday in San Francisco, March 21 @ 6pm

In addition to the topics, there is lots of opportunity to exchange best practices and to connect with like-minded Marketing Automation enthusiasts.

Marketing Automation Monday in Other Cities

Why should the Bay Area have all the fun? Our new registration website accommodates Meetups in different cities, each with their own mailinglist. If you want to be notified of meetups in your city, please join the Marketing Automation Meetup group, and specify your city in the “edit membership” section.

We currently have the following cities listed:

  • Atlanta
  • Austin
  • Boston
  • New York City
  • Philadelphia
  • Raleigh-Durham
  • San Francisco
  • Silicon Valley
  • Toronto
  • Washington DC

If you’d like to add your city, please let me know (jep at leadsloth dot com).

Marketing Automation Monday – NYC & SF – Dec 6th

The last two Marketing Automation meetups were well received by the attendees, so we’ve been working on an encore. This time not just in the Bay Area, but also in New York City (Austin, TX coming in January):

The event in San Francisco is during Dreamforce, so we’re hoping some out-of-town attendees can also make it.

Both events are at Monday December 6th at 6pm (local time). Snacks and drinks will be provided. We’re expecting between a dozen and 25 people at each meetup, so there should be lots of good discussions!

We hope you can make it to one of these events. If you’d like to host an event in your city, please let me know.

Drip Campaigns: Tips From Marketing Automation Monday

Almost 30 people showed up for the first two Marketing Automation Monday meetups in San Francisco and Palo Alto. The topics for these meetings was drip campaigns and lead nurturing. Lots of good ideas and best practices were exchanged, and I wanted to give you a quick summary in this blog post.

Database Segmentation

Segmentation came up several times. You need to tailor your drip campaigns to different audiences. Often, this is based on product, company size, industry or sales channel (direct, partner, affiliate). Some companies were actively capturing more information on prospects (e.g. via progressive profiling), so they could run more targeted campaigns. Another company was pulling revenue information from their billing system into the CRM system.

A recurring theme is that you need to really understand the prospect. Several people had worked with the sales team to better understand the buying process, and one company even started a user experience group to better understand the customers.

Segmentation on Lead Source and Search Keywords

An email marketing vendor found out that people searching for "newsletters" are less sophisticated than those who search for "email software". That's useful info to fine-tune your nurturing programs.

Also, lead source can give valuable clues to the desired length of the nurturing process. One company measured how long it took from initial lead creation until an opportunity was created:

  • Organic search: 30 days 
  • Paid search: 60 days
  • Purchased list: 250 days

Interesting enough, once the opportunity was created, it took the same time for the deal to close (6 months), regardless of lead source.

Lead Nurturing Based on Product Usage

Being in the Bay Area, a lot of the attendees worked for software companies. Many of them have trial programs, so potential clients can try the product before they buy. Several people mentioned they were feeding product usage information to their Marketing Automation system to tailor the drip campaigns. Often, this was an automated process, using the Marketing AUtomation system's API.

Some of these same companies are also collecting statistical information on product usage of existing clients, and are running upselling campaigns based on that information.

Pipeline Nurturing

One company found that qualified leads were falling off the sales person's radar when they were not buying within one or two weeks. Therefore, they started a nurturing campaign 3 weeks after the last contact by a sales rep. This resulted in a 7 times increase in close rate, compared to not having the nurturing. Of course, these leads were already qualified, but it shows that nurturing can actually directly help sales people meet their targets.

Email Sent on Behalf of Sales Reps

Talking about sales people: email sent on behalf of a sales rep seems to be used by almost all companies. Everyone agreed that plain formatting worked the best for these "sales" emails. Often, the content of the email is kept short. In one case, the best performing email was actually just one line. Best of all: the unsubscribe rate of these emails is very low. One company even created a fake female persona (including LinkedIn profile), because their prospects were responding way better to a female (IT audience, I guess).

Measuring Replies to Nurturing Emails

However, it's a challenge to measure how many recipients are replying to those emails, as the email goes straight back to the sales rep. One solution was to create an email alias that forwards the email to both the sales rep and another mailbox. That mailbox has to be monitored manually. Another company was saving those replies straight into Salesforce.com.

An additional challenge is to pull prospects out of the campaign after they converted: however, this often depends on a manual action by the sales rep, which is not always happening. One company specifically trained sales people to do this.

Preventing Too Much Email

At one company, product managers for the different product lines could request email campaigns. However, they often specified overlapping segments of the database, causing too much email to be sent. It was a manual process to review the campaigns and prevent annoying the leads.

Another company wanted to automate this. They have multiple automated campaigns that would possibly overlap: they were looking for a way to manage this, having some kind of "traffic cop". This is definitely an area that could use some best practices.

ROI Calculations

Even though the topic of these two meetups was Drip Campaigns, reporting came up as a important topic. Some used customizations of Salesforce.com, others add-on products from their Marketing Automation vendors, one company was using a Business Intelligence tool, and yet others developed a custom solution.

We also had some discussion on campaign attribution, to measure the effect of your lead generation and lead nurturing campaigns. One company decided to do ROI calculations only based on the original lead source, not on campaign influence. They found this was much simpler, and gave approximately the same results.

Next: December 6th – San Francisco & Austin, TX

We had some great discussions at these meetups, so we're already planning the next ones. It looks like we'll have a meeting on December 6th in San Francisco. This will be during Dreamforce in a nearby location. We're also planning a meetup in Austin, TX that same day. Also on the list: New York, Boston, Washington DC and Raleigh-Durham. If you're in any of those areas and you're interested in helping to organize it, please let me know (jep at leadsloth dot com).

Also, if you're not a member yet, please sign up for the Marketing Automation Association LinkedIn Group.

Learn Holistic Lead Nurturing

Would you like to learn how Lead Nurturing can turn more of your leads into revenue? On a single afternoon in New York City, Silverpop brings together several expert speakers to discuss Holistic Lead Nurturing strategies. The agenda covers B2B marketing trends, marketing infrastructure, nurturing dialogs, campaign development and implementation advice. Speakers include Adam Needles (Silverpop), Jay Hidalgo (Annuitas Group), Mac McIntosh (Acquire B2B) and myself. See below for an overview of Holistic Lead Nurturing.

Date & Time: September 14th, from 12pm to 5.30pm, with cocktails afterwards
Location: Affinia Manhattan Hotel, 371 Seventh Avenue
Cost: FREE for qualified marketers

Register here: http://sloth.in/9esz8E

Other locations: Boston (October 19th),  San Francisco (November 2nd); see the full schedule

What Is Holistic Lead Nurturing?

For those of you who can’t make it, I’ll give a short overview of the event. First of all, what does “holistic” mean in this context? It means that you identify market trends, then define a strategy for lead nurturing, and then implement it. So it’s not just “let’s do some drip emails”, but a more comprehensive approach to get the most out of your lead nurturing campaigns.

The Changing B2B Buyer

The B2B buying process has changed. There is more information available online and in social networks, and sales people get involved at a much later stage. That also means that Marketing will be involved much longer: not just to generate leads, but also to nurturing the leads until they are ready to talk to a sales person.

New Marketing Technology

At the same time, technology solutions enable a new way to design and automate campaigns. Marketing Automation systems make it possible to design automated multi-step email campaigns. Also, they can track the responses at a very detailed level, including monitoring of website visits. Based on that activity, lead scoring gives an indication of the interests and sales-readiness of leads. And by integrating with the CRM system, sales can also be kept in the loop.

Creating a Dialog

With the new buying and technology environment, you can create a new type of nurturing dialog. It’s about understanding, tracking, scoring and routing leads. However, to succeed you need to put these individual activities together in a process to help leads along in the buying process. That is holistic lead management, which will help you turn more “raw” leads into qualified leads.

Generating Demand

And that brings us to the next step: optimizing your nurturing campaigns to generate more demand for your solutions. This starts with designing multi-track nurturing campaigns, based on the overall lead flow from the previous step. These campaigns should be aligned with the steps in the buying process, they should include appealing offers, leverage Buyer Personas, and possibly also integrate telesales or direct mail.

Putting It Into Practice

Because lead management and lead nurturing are pretty new, it’s sometimes hard to visualize how it will actually work in your organization. First of all, there are few organizations who have implemented all best practices: it can take years to build out a holistic nurturing program, but you can see the first results in just months, by taking small steps towards the ultimate vision. I recommend talking to peers at other organizations to see what they have accomplished with their lead nurturing programs.

Is Holistic Marketing the Future?

What is your take: should every B2B organization with a complex sales process adopt Holistic Lead Management practices? Or do you feel it’s too comprehensive? Did I forget any steps? Please let add your comments.

MarketingSherpa B2B Marketing Summit

San Francisco: October 4-5 / Boston: October 25-26

Just like last year, I will be a blogging partner for MarketingSherpa’s B2B Marketing Summit. Again, they have created a great program for B2B Marketers, covering both lead generation and lead nurturing strategies.

What is nice about this summit is that most speakers are marketing practitioners, not vendors. Also, MarketingSherpa team members like Brian Carroll and Sergio Balegno are known for their excellent presentations.

Just some highlights:

  • Integrating Social Media with B2B Email – Daryl Nielson, Marketing Manager, Email B2B, HP and Mia Dand, B2B Social Media Marketing Manager, HP WW Enterprise Business Marketing
  • Lead Scoring and Nurturing – Melissa Centrella from Virgin HealthMiles
  • Content that Converts – Marko Muellner and Thom Schoeborn from Webtrends
  • Social Media for the B2B Marketer – Alex Plant from NetApp and Natascha Thomson from SAP
  • Balancing Your Marketing Portfolio: Choosing the Right Mix of Tactics to Maximize ROI on a Limited Budget – Greg Sherry from Verint Systems

More info on the program »

LeadSloth Discount: $500 extra off

MarketingSherpa has been very kind to create a special offer for LeadSloth readers. Normally the event is $1,695, regular discount is $200, but you get an extra $500 off. That makes $995. I think that’s a very good deal.

Visit this registration page to get the discount »

Tip: if you’re coming to the San Francisco summit and you like affordable and delicious Thai food, check out Siam Thai: it’s inside the Parc 55 hotel where the conference takes place.